released darktable 1.6.7

Thank you guys for the great job you are doing with Darktable. Keep going that way ;)

Great update great program. To bad there isnt dt for windows.
Sold my imac an ubuntu isnt something for me.
Reconsider and the community will be exploding.

Boy, it's mindboggling how a point so clearly and painstakingly made can be missed. There is no dt for Windows for a reason.

Ubuntu isn't the only Linux distribution out there, actually, it's not for me either. I use Debian, which Ubuntu and over a hundred other linux distros are built from. Consider maybe using or trying another linux distro?

Debian, Fedora, Linux Mint, ...

Thanks for such an awesome update! All working good and speedy here with me!

Cheers!

Joe Giampaoli

Thanks a lot for the update. Just tested it and works great on my machine.

Please keep this awesome work.

Works like a charm! I can't say how grateful I am that you guys keep maintinaing this program - it is an absolute essential part of my daily operations and I love it.

Thanks for putting so much work into this. I would like to make some contribution, if only better profiles for my camera and lenses.

I frequently get the problem of darktable partially freezing in lighttable mode when I scroll through images quickly. CPU usage goes up to %100 and the lighttable can no longer display the next images when scrolling.
I seem to recall reading a comment that this was something to do with image or thumbnail caching. Also that the caching code was going to be reworked to make it faster in a later version.
Is it worthwhile for me to try helping debug the current problem or is it the plan to just hope to fix it with new code (which I am assuming is Feature #10500, planned for 2.0)?

Fixing auto exposure one day would be awesome...
http://redmine.darktable.org/issues/10451

Apart from that, GREAT job.

Thank you!

I get DigiDio's point: Darktable would be much more known and famous if there was a Windows version. This is even more true as there is no as powerful (& free) RAW editor software on Windows. It's not a complain or a request, just a statement.

Moreover, I prefer by far a regular evolution of Darktable on Linux than a poor Windows version with no updates ;)

(I'm not a Linux fan, but it works fine and quickly on my not so quick computer.)

Works like a charm, thanks for this great piece of softwar!

Thank you for working on darktable! Thanks you guys like you I don't have to boot windows and pay for Adobe crapware every month to edit my photos. So, again, thanks alot!

I'll never be able to properly express my gratitude to the developers for the efforts invested in this masterpiece.

Some people above commented about something "Windows"?
Do you know what that is? Do we need it? ;)

whooooo hooooooo!!!!!!!

*impatiently waiting for the Mac .dmg*

Here you go: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/download/release-1.6.7/darktable-1.6.7.dmg

Wow! thank you for this new version of Darktable, that I use every day! It's really beautiful!
I also notice that you post a picture on this page it's a picture of the place Stanislas in Nancy, it's the place where I work :) Continue like this, you doing a great job!
Si je peux vous aider en quoi que ce soit, faite moi signe ^^

Thank you. Just got update from fedora

Thank you so much, guys. This is THE linux killer application!!

Thanks a lot! All my paid-for RAW developer software has been gathering dust since I rediscovered darktable.

As if it needs to be said, but this is an AMAZING application. I've spent just 5 minutes playing with a photo and it's superb. I feel ashamed this has been missing from my Linux machine until now. A credit to all the contributors. Thanks!

"Windows" ??
I do not know this, too. A new and terrific product, I guess ?
("X-Windows", yes).

A pity that so many people do not know that they can get so more better products outside of this silly mainstream ...
A product like this one, for example. A FOSS quality one.
Thanks.

Have fun, guys.

I have some experience in cross-compiling GTK applications for Windows under Linux, using mingw... at least I am successfully providing Windows packages for my Photoflow editor with this method.

Should I try to create a Windows Darktable installer? Are there some known issues that prevent this method to work successfully for Darktable?

I know how to cross compile applications, too, and in the past I managed to get a (more or less) working darktable under Windows. However, at the moment we don't want to support Windows for two main reasons: it's a maintenance nightmare and the current state of darktable wouldn't even compile for Windows so several changes in its core were needed (for example, Windows doesn't support select() on file handles).

To @houz and the other Windows trolls:

It's a maintainance nightmare because your codebase is a nightmare (well, not everything to be honest, but a lot more than what would be considered "sane" for such a project)

Many other open source software seem to do just fine with Windows. Oddly enough on one of those, the only platform that was recently causing troubles was MacOS for their poor OpenGL driver support. And yet you support this "commercial distro", but keep being ("you" being the community, not you especially) condescending or plainly disrepectfull: the installation section on Windows is just a big troll ... And I feel sorry for you for letting this section be.

Anyway, I keep coming back here hoping to see something new on this front, but keep being disappointed by the mentality.
Not that anyone care, I am (cover the eyes of your children !!) Windows user, but I wanted to react at least to this "maintainance nightmare" bullshit.

Ps: please forgive my english, it's not my primary language.

@houz

by the way : http://www.tinyclouds.org/iocp-links.html which leads to : https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms740141%28v=VS.85%29.aspx

A quality FOSS one. Definitely not typical FOSS quality. Excellent work on the 1.6x series! Better than commercial Lightroom, I think. So glad to see now two Raw converters that both free and exceptional quality (RT being the other -- the guy who made a comment about wanting Windows should look into that one).

@Funk: If you had any clue at all what you are talking about then you
1) wouldn't link me to select() for sockets when I talked about file handles and
2) understood that I wasn't talking about our code base (which is quite clean and nice – you probably never looked at it and wouldn't understand it in the first place) but about the required build dependencies. Compiler (there is no one standard exception handling for example, so you have to make sure that every C++ based code you link to uses the same as you do), libraries (most external libs we depend on would have to be built and manually updated forever) and deployment (we would have to waste time with an installer since there is no universal package management we can rely on – this is related to the other points). So in the end it's all a big burden and extra work for most likely nothing in return. And as long as all of this is a hobby the motivating factor for us to work on darktable is FUN. Something people like you kill. So please, leave and be happy with RT.

The DT guys don't want to do Windows, it's their call.

But how about Carmelo, Funk, and others who want it go and do it themselves? It's Free software, guys. If the DT guys won't accept your patches, just fork it!

Great work so far I have only been using Darktable for a few days now and finding it very good I still have a lot to learn about it , It has sped up my post processing considerably, keep up the good work and looking forward to future releases

Yes, this is more of a race condition in the current thumbnail generation code, which has been completely rewritten in the git master version of darktable (which will become the 2.0 release when it's finished, probably later this year).

However, if you regularly get crashes it could be worthwhile to submit the backtraces (they normally appear in /tmp/darktable_bt_XXXXXX.txt after a crash). Upload to pastebin or similar and create a new bug report in redmine: http://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues and link to your paste.

To: Funk about :"To @houz and the other Windows trolls"

Are you part of the DT's development team?

Some people hear good things about DT and would like to use it but their platform is Windows. Asking about it doesn't make them trolls.

There is no need to call people names. They just would like to use DT. It's like calling people names because they have red hair or blond hair or bold w/o hair...

/Syv

@houz

You don't need to publish my answer, you can leave the thread as it is, I didn't want to troll or anything, it's just that I'm really annoyed by the whole disrespect towards anything related to Windows in here.

I just want to add a few things now that my head's a bit cooler.

First of all, yes, I did take a more than extensive look at the codebase. I even managed to build DarkTable using Premake and the Express Visual Studio edition. I had to do a lot of horrible stuff and deactivate a lot of functionalities, and even though it just crashed on launched. That's when I decided to just leave this be.

You'll have to take my word for this, but I'm a professional developper. I work in video games, and I have "quite a bit" of knowledge and experience in multiplatform and architectures (win, macos, ios, android (all the flavors) ps3/4, xbox, and some other esoteric platforms) When I say that your codebase is a nightmare, ask yourself this question: how much work would it be required to port your application to Qt for instance ? Is it even feasible ? You might feel comfortable working in dt, but it doesn't mean it's clean. And this is where a lot of problems occur when trying to do multiplatform (well, you're not trying to, so it might explain things)

That being said, and having built it, I know that all the libs that dt is using is the cause of most of the problems. And I know that you won't bother with Windows builds and stuff. I probably shouldn't have talked about that in the first place and should just have said that you probably should be a little less (you being the community, not "you" necessarily) disrespectfull toward Windows (users). Because some like me will still continue to go here, at least to keep their old linux machine up to date with the latest Dt release. And it's just sad that everytime I do and make the mistake of reading the comments, I feel "persona non grata"

Finally, just a request: please remove the Windows section on the installation page of this site. It's just insulting/trolling. It will does nothing for you, except saddening people like me.

'the motivating factor for us to work on darktable is FUN. Something people like you kill. So please, leave and be happy with RT.'

houz, that sounds like work on RT is no fun...which is not true

Ingo

That's not what I wanted to imply, RT was just mentioned as a viable alternative for Windows users in these comments so I thought it would suit him better.

I happen to use both Windows and Linux at any given time. I very much like Darktable RAW processing, alas I understand that a version for the former is highly unlikely due to technical reasons cited by Darktable programmers. That is fine; for Windows I have Lightroom and Rawtherapee. I haven't any complaints with using either.
But I have to side with those taking exception to the wording on your "Install" webpage: it it perfectly understandable that there be notice Darktable isn't available for Microsoft Windows (after all, it is the most prevalent computer operating system in the world today, and some may just be assuming you've got it covered). But suffice it to say one is not available, as there is absolutely no need to communicate that fact so pejoratively towards Windows users on your site. And it is especially hypocritical to be so snide towards that "commercial distro" when Darktable is fully supported on MacOS X, probably the most commercial and insular OS on Earth (it's not only closed-source, but you are restricted to running it on Apple's own over-priced hardware). Your language is thus unfair and divisive. As such, I suggest the wording under the Windows section either be changed, or the name of the OS be removed completely from your website.

maybe i should chime in, just once, since i was the one who originally put the windows paragraph on the webpage that you seem to find so offensive.

i really didn't mean to offend anyone.

i think where i go wrong is probably that i can't imagine anyone would be using windows because they want to and enjoy it.

i still think the statement in the install section is accurate though. the thing with the macintosh port is that there is a brave person (parafin) who stepped up and is investing a significant amount of time building, maintaining, and supporting the disk image (there are a lot of macintosh specific requests in redmine).

let me add that i don't feel emotional about anything concerning computers or open source licences, i would probably not be opposed to a windows port as much as most. i have to admit though that i cannot believe it is merely due to the wording on our install page that discussions with the word `windows' in it turn hostile so quickly.

i reworded the section to read `different' instead of `better' to sound less patronising. we will talk about removing the whole paragraph indeed: it did make a lot more sense in the past, when there still was a link to pascal's ubuntu remaster ISO with dt preinstalled. now, without knowing the history, you might get the idea it's just there to mock windows users (which is not how this came to be).

Don't get me wrong: I'm not emotionally attached or anything like that either :) It's just two people had already made the same suggestion prior to my post and I chimed in too. It wasn't meant as a counter-offensive, or anything like that -- just a suggestion based on other what thers had stated more forcefully.
Darktable is an excellent program that stands on its own merits and which can be compared very favourably with any other Raw development software free or otherwise. And I believe that the team behind it knows this and is committed to well-engineered releases. I, although not a programmer, understand the technical difficulties of porting to an entirely different platform and it must only be done with planning if/when it is deemed that such an endevour will not degrade the quality of the existing codebase. With that in mind, would David Korn's (AT&T) UWIN package of help in porting Dt? I'm not being importunate, just throwing it out there... Since I do use Windows and actually have been thought to enjoy it from time to time ;)
Thanks for your efforts on the project and for taking the time to reply.

http://www.darktable.org/2015/07/why-dont-you-provide-a-windows-build/

http://www.darktable.org/2015/07/why-dont-you-provide-a-windows-build/